tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post8213162695675880006..comments2007-12-16T22:41:55.547-07:00Natehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11303468413860003657noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-56370213894365078962007-12-16T22:41:00.000-07:002007-12-16T22:41:00.000-07:00FeeFiFoFum...I think I've removed all the AdSense (NonSense) from my blogs now. No point giving G the opportunity to make money from me.<BR/><BR/>Great post, too!homeschoolzoohttp://technorati.com/people/technorati/homeschoolzoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-47417795147916977962007-12-15T12:53:00.000-07:002007-12-15T12:53:00.000-07:00I just got hit with a google zero for using PPP, too. I've stripped everything that might make google money from my blog, and I'm doing my best to use them in ways that just cost them money. <BR/> <BR/>I'm going to integrate Slash My Search into my blog as an alternative search engine (info: http://www.slashmysearch.com/earn/id/23131 ). SMS pays its users for their traffic, unlike Google, which is just on the take. <BR/> <BR/>Let's de-fund the beast!Paul E. Zimmerman, M.A.http://www.blogger.com/profile/04480215501034566588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-32839670036598968752007-12-14T13:29:00.000-07:002007-12-14T13:29:00.000-07:00Google may own how they rank sites, but they don't own the Internet. Who are they to make the rules for the Internet? What's next? A Google Nanny to protect your kids from what Google feels is wrong?Natehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11303468413860003657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-51471119352574791302007-12-13T14:06:00.000-07:002007-12-13T14:06:00.000-07:00"but as mistipurple said, there's a lot of image (goodwill) in it too, and IMHO google is swatting the wrong "fly", they should go after those that buy the links instead - they KNOW that it's against google's rules, most PPP'ers didn't know it before the PR slap happened."<BR/><BR/>Definitely agree with this, most PPP did not know of this rule before.<BR/><BR/>I really hope that socialspark's switch to nofollow links will be a help to all of us.Karahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06825366006877044399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-4808083544647803542007-12-13T13:05:00.000-07:002007-12-13T13:05:00.000-07:00disclaimer (i think i'll need one):<BR/>* i'm not trying to be evil or smirk at others misfortune.<BR/><BR/>* i do paid blogging myself with PPP and others, but i have not been slapped yet.<BR/><BR/>now the comment:<BR/>it is clearly stated that tampering with their PR engine is forbidden and can result in loss of PR and/or ban from googles index.<BR/><BR/>paid posts does just this, do you really think that the advertisers care <I>that</I> much about <I>what</I> you write, except for the >$20 offers...<BR/><BR/>we're cheap permanent links, to boost <I>their</I> PR, with the addition that they <I>might</I> actually get a click or two too (how many of you have clicked on a TLA link in comparison to a paid post?)<BR/><BR/>and selling permanent links is exactly what googles get all ballistic about, because that messes with their PR algorithm, enough of it and google's worth squat.<BR/><BR/>but as mistipurple said, there's a lot of image (goodwill) in it too, and IMHO google is swatting the wrong "fly", they should go after those that buy the links instead - they <B>KNOW</B> that it's against google's rules, most PPP'ers didn't know it before the PR slap happened.<BR/><BR/>and short post script, if they want , google could be how mean they want, it's a company and they <B>own</B> the stuff (well not your text), if they want to they could just pull the plug, so don't expect google to be this trustworthy giant that does no evil, is friendly to everybody... they're profit makers, and stock owners want value for their money.<BR/><BR/>(sorry for the lengty comment)chosignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-6510005957593358092007-12-13T12:02:00.000-07:002007-12-13T12:02:00.000-07:00I also took Adsense off my sites and I've been using a different search engine (Yahoo)... It's a shame that most people won't pay any attention until it's too late.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully there won't come a time when Google owns the internet and censors us all - but with the typical apathy of the majority, it may come to that.<BR/><BR/>Good post.Teehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03076463332479353828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-39625577267455814342007-12-07T13:59:00.000-07:002007-12-07T13:59:00.000-07:00Hopefully advertisers will realize, before too long, that PR doesn't mean anything anymore.Annahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06890142175838239035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-26206549625182026792007-12-06T09:58:00.000-07:002007-12-06T09:58:00.000-07:00google is being high handed about things. i can't imagine how this can be good for their image. a company is all about image too. they've gone so big they don't think they need to give any hoot of an explanation to anyone.mistipurplehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02483567261600728148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-7771087485720094992007-12-06T08:35:00.000-07:002007-12-06T08:35:00.000-07:00Yeah, their PR system is broken. This blog has very low traffic and has a PR1, mine has a lot more traffic and backlinks and such but got dropped from 3 to 0 just because I do paid posts.Karahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06825366006877044399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-59200834261459895712007-12-06T08:14:00.000-07:002007-12-06T08:14:00.000-07:00Google's PR was not a credible ranking of a site's popularity at all when the drop in PPP blogger's ranks happened. And them specifically targeting the PR of PPP bloggers just solidifies the fact that PR has nothing to do with site traffic or popularity or visitors at all. I know someone who has a page rank of 5 and only updates her blog twice a week and the blog is a new one. By Google using their PR system to target just paid blogger, they completely threw away any credibility that system may have had.Natehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11303468413860003657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-1043049775430703952007-12-06T04:58:00.000-07:002007-12-06T04:58:00.000-07:00I don't see Adsense and PPP as direct competitors. Adsense is seen on non-blog sites, and PPP has a very specific application that involves selling space in the blog's content. I don't think that the drastic pagerank cuts were fair at all, but I do understand that Google is trying to keep their pagerank system credible, and PPP advertisers' favoring of higher-ranked blogs and use of anchor text makes it clear that they are not going to start ignoring PageRank anytime soon. Most Internet users use Google, and that's a large part of what many, if not most, PPP advertisers are using our blogs to boost. Not their traffic, but the relationship between their sites and the keywords they want associated with those sites....<I>in Google.</I>Lauriehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15645948045234804487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-88532433605230802022007-12-05T22:04:00.000-07:002007-12-05T22:04:00.000-07:00Google is so unfair to what they have done to bloggers getting paid to post.<BR/><BR/>Having to use the Google sign in to leave a comment also.shirleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09728834573262565369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-48857168297063295672007-12-05T19:52:00.000-07:002007-12-05T19:52:00.000-07:00Fantastic take on the situation! Your post was very well written.<BR/><BR/>They have to be stopped and I certainly hope it's SOON.Christine @ starryskye.org/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-9115849329371005942007-12-05T19:04:00.000-07:002007-12-05T19:04:00.000-07:00This is perfect! I love the analogies. <BR/><BR/>Did you also know that even tho I have my own blog(s) I have to sign into Google in order to leave a comment that's not anonymous on Blogger now? Yes that's Groogle's new game.MyChronicLifehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08588270093392262411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2399365622349919873.post-66302945315022579382007-12-05T15:22:00.000-07:002007-12-05T15:22:00.000-07:00Well said, honey, great post :)Karahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06825366006877044399noreply@blogger.com